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Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.07 13:51:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:BTW, did somebody else notice the deafening silence of the CSM about this issue? 
What are you looking for exactly? If I was still a CSM my response would be something like this:
"You mean they're giving FW a reason to exist AND nerfing passive highsec income? Awesome."
Are you looking for that? I can give you that if you'd like. |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1219
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Posted - 2012.05.07 14:15:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Vile rat wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:BTW, did somebody else notice the deafening silence of the CSM about this issue?  What are you looking for exactly? If I was still a CSM my response would be something like this: "You mean they're giving FW a reason to exist AND nerfing passive highsec income? Awesome." Are you looking for that? I can give you that if you'd like. Hadn't expected else from you Vile. No need to think about it and just blurp off your mouth cause one of your "former" mouthbreathers makes it so because he is a lead designer now. I am fairly certain he is having a laugh with his buddies on the SA forums.
You are painfully stupid. |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1219
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Posted - 2012.05.07 14:19:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Vile rat wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:BTW, did somebody else notice the deafening silence of the CSM about this issue?  What are you looking for exactly? If I was still a CSM my response would be something like this: "You mean they're giving FW a reason to exist AND nerfing passive highsec income? Awesome." Are you looking for that? I can give you that if you'd like. That seems to be the main issue with CCP as well as the CSMs ideology on how to fix FW. Your not going to fix FW or even give it meaning by increasing its profitability, especially with datacores. All your going to achieve is the same that lowering the LP cost in FW stores did, fluff the number of people leeching off of missions. Once CCP starts realizing its not the profitability that attracts people to participate in FW but the PVP. Give meaning to pvping in FW, create content around promoting pvp, data core farming isn't going to achieve that.
Yeah maybe, I like other ideas put out there for lowsec and fw upgrading better but I'm happy they are at least revisiting FW instead of leaving it dead and buried. To clarify I mostly posted just to show that there are few people going to cry tears over the loss of a high sec no effort steady income mechanism. I did like the idea of not getting rp if you don't do the daily mission though, that was a nice touch. Putting things in to at least take some managing in order to get cash would be a nice change of pace.
I don't think this is going to really do much to improve FW though. Nobody does that kind of crap for LP, let's face it. |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1219
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Posted - 2012.05.07 14:31:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Vile rat wrote:
Yeah maybe, I like other ideas put out there for lowsec and fw upgrading better but I'm happy they are at least revisiting FW instead of leaving it dead and buried. To clarify I mostly posted just to show that there are few people going to cry tears over the loss of a high sec no effort steady income mechanism. I did like the idea of not getting rp if you don't do the daily mission though, that was a nice touch. Putting things in to at least take some managing in order to get cash would be a nice change of pace.
I don't think this is going to really do much to improve FW though. Nobody does that kind of crap for LP, let's face it.
Don't get me wrong some of the changes they are making to FW are decent and its nice for them to finally look at FW to change it, but their mentality of looking at things from a profitablity standpoint is what my concern is. Same issue when trying to balance high sec, lowsec, and nullsec. They try to balance it based off of the profitability of the other areas, ex. trying to nerf high sec to make null more profitable to get people to move there which doesn't work. Where as they need to look at each area in of itself and make changes that benefit that style of play, giving each area a niche that will attract players.
Ain't nobody going to get into FW as a way to make money. Maybe it'll keep people there though if it's comfortable and fun. At least you should be able to make enough to fund your ships and whatnot so that'd be a definite plus. |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1219
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Posted - 2012.05.07 15:51:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:
Your ignorance just oozes out of your replies.
No effort steady income?
So the time and Isk invested to even get it started was no effort.
No, the time and isk invested to even get it are absolutely inconsequential.
http://i.imgur.com/wzUW9.png
Quote: Once you actually have everything sorted out you still have the very long jumps to collect those cores and then more jumps to put them on a market. Yes still no effort. By the way, you will have to train blockade runner too or outsource the transport of the datacores because opposite to null sec you can't see who might be trying to (suicide) gank you while you carry some Isk worth of datacores.
Holy crap man do you want us to play the game for you?
Quote: The whole shift of datacores to FW is a stupid idea and you are just too butthurt to agree to it because it might upset your batphone buddy.
You already get only 50% of the RP you would get daily if you were to do the daily mission for the agent. Just too bad that if you want to have any shot at some usefull RP and datacores you are already forced to use agents which are often 20 or more jumps apart. That might not be an issue for the null sec jumpbridge dwellers but it does take away a lot of gametime from regular players. But you don't give a damn about that. Why would you. it's not a part of the game you care about.
This is one reason why it's one of the best things you and your kind should stay out of the CSM and game design. You lack the broader vision and only trample narrowminded through it all and disregarding all which isn't up your ally.
Oh come now, insults are just rude! |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1220
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Posted - 2012.05.07 17:08:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Vile rat wrote: Oh come now, insults are just rude!
Want me to link every single insult you threw at people out there?
Yes! please do! |
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